Palantir & Privacy: Lifesaving Technology or Another Patriot Act? w/ Dr. Drew, Rogan O’Handley, Brian O’Shea

On the June 11, 2025, episode of Ask Dr. Drew, Kaleb Nation voiced concerns about proposed government contracts with Palantir and the gradual loss of privacy in the United States. He compares the proposal to the Patriot Act, enacted during Kaleb’s post-9/11 childhood, which initially appeared to be an effective surveillance law for keeping Americans safe from terrorism but has since been misused for political reasons and to target innocent citizens.

Kaleb weighs the risks and benefits of Palantir and a National ID. How can a central repository of all Americans’ data ever be safe from hackers and bad actors? And what happens when the people in power today are replaced with others every 4 years – will they uphold the same promises?


Rogan O’Handley, known as DC Draino, is a former entertainment lawyer with over 7 million followers. He graduated from the University of Chicago Law School.

Brian O’Shea is an investigative journalist at Daily Clout and host of Unrestricted Invasion. With 30 years in military and government intelligence, he holds a master’s in Criminal Justice from Boston University.

Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio shows, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He’s known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show.

Kaleb Nation Headshot (Hollywood Towers Sunset Blvd)

Kaleb Nation is an author, TV personality, and digital media entrepreneur. With two decades of experience in all aspects of digital content production, Kaleb is a nationally-recognized expert on Internet culture and viral marketing.

He has been featured by CNN, HLN, NPR, ABC, MTV, TLC, Mashable, Entertainment Weekly, and Good Morning America. His videos and websites have been viewed over 150,000,000 times.

Kaleb is Executive Producer of Ask Dr. Drew, the flagship live streaming show hosted by Dr. Drew Pinsky. From 2009-2013, he published multiple fiction books for young readers: The Farfield Curse (Sourcebooks / Scholastic), its sequel The Specter Key (Sourcebooks / Scholastic), and standalone novel Harken (Amazon).